Tom and Melody
February 18, 2007 — Tom & Melody
We live in Chelsea, in southeastern Michigan, along the Pioneer Wine Trail. Several good Michigan wineries are nearby, including Lone Oak Vineyard Estate, Pentamere Winery, Sandhill Crane Vineyards, and Cherry Creek Cellars.
We’ve also enjoyed wines at wineries up north around Traverse City, Michigan, such as Shady Lane Cellars and Chateau de Leelanlau.
We became interested in red wine several years ago when we were dating. Our first reds were on the modest side (Avia from Slovenia was a common one) and we’ve gradually refined and expanded our tastes. We’ve also been avid students — reading, tasting and learning as we go.
We started keeping handwritten notes about the wines we tried and then realized that a blog, with searchable, taggable entries, would be more practical.
March 12, 2007 at 2:50 pm
Wow, you two have really got this blogging thing down. The site looks so nice. I enjoy reading what you have to say when I get a free minute. I miss you two both, and can’t wait to see you!!
March 12, 2007 at 6:58 pm
Tony, We miss you, too. We love you so much and can’t wait to see you! Love, Mom
March 13, 2007 at 10:50 am
What a great Blog. Thanks for providing wine lovers with this excellent resource.
All the best,
Richard
March 13, 2007 at 6:05 pm
Richard,
Thank you very much! I hope it will be useful!
Melody
March 18, 2007 at 8:41 pm
So…where were you guys when I needed to figure out a wine to take to my book club!! Nice job!
March 19, 2007 at 5:09 am
Thanks, Dawn! We have found that a spicy Shiraz compliments historical novels while a more subdued Merlot is best for a good mystery.
March 24, 2007 at 10:52 am
I am enjoying reading and watching real connoiseurs of wine. It is like watching a symphony. Melody and Tom are fun to watch and to hear about the wines they have tasted. Proud mommy.
March 24, 2007 at 2:57 pm
Awww, thanks, Mom! . . .Proud daughter
May 5, 2007 at 2:34 pm
Tom and Melody,
What a terrific blog. Great info, plus a really nice design!
And you both look so happy.
Brandon
May 11, 2007 at 10:28 am
The site is really easy to search through and I never realized how much there is to wine! I wanted to say thanks for a lovely dinner the other night! I was pretty pumped to see the picture of Tones and I up on your site
May 31, 2007 at 11:49 am
Hello,
Congratulations for your blog http://tomandmelodywine.com!
Do you want to make a swap of links between our blogs?
My wine blog is portuguese:
name: Os Vinhos
link: http://osvinhos.blogspot.com
Thanks
May 31, 2007 at 2:24 pm
Hello Pedro! I really enjoying looking at your blog. There are certainly a wealth of interesting wines listed. We think it is a great idea to swap links of our blogs! We’ll put your link on our blog sometime this week. Thank you for contacting us! Stay in touch.
Tom & Melody
June 14, 2007 at 10:38 am
Tom & Melody,
Great site that I happened upon while checking Michigan wine links for my MichWine site (www.michwine.com). We’re almost neighbors…
Would obviously like to see you taste and write about more Michigan wines — there are some fabulous 2005 vintage reds currently available.
Joel
June 14, 2007 at 11:39 am
Joel — thank you so much for your comment. We are very interested in tasting more Michigan wines. As you can probably tell, we are partial to reds. I am going to your site now. Thanks, again!
June 17, 2007 at 8:35 pm
Hey you two, nice job on the website! I’m going to have to agree with grandma, it is like watching a symphony! You really sound like credible wine connoisseurs. You’ll have to give me a lesson (or a few) once I get back into town. Love you both! Happy father’s day Tom!
June 18, 2007 at 6:23 am
Tommy, you made my day. We love you and are very excited for you to be back on this side of the state! Wine lessons available at a moment’s notice! Love, Mom
June 18, 2007 at 10:15 am
Tommy, thanks! We’re learning all the time. (I’m not sure when we get to consider ourselves ‘connoisseurs’…
Thanks for the Father’ Day greeting! I’m very lucky to have you and Tony as sons. Love you, Tom.
June 18, 2007 at 1:34 pm
Tom and Melody…….Buck and I are good friends with Bob and Pat and they put us onto your site. I enjoy it very much. Have you tried Layer Cake Shiraz. Must be somewhere around 13 bucks but I can’t find it here. I called the distributor and they said it is goin like wildfire and may not have another shipment till the fall. Shiraz’s are my fave but Buck sticks with his Amberbock. No class tat tall. B and P are planning on coming to visit us in Indiana in August. Bet they are looking for an easy way out of that…….we don’t have air conditioning. We have a wonderful Ribberfest in our little town of 15,000. Draws more than 30,000 over the weekend. It’s blues, barbeque and balloons (hot air). We’re right on the Ohio River and the festival is held on the banks in the park. We love our little town of Madison. Wanna come down and join us. Carol Ann
June 18, 2007 at 6:41 pm
Hi Carol & Buck! So nice of you to leave a comment on our blog! We’ve heard so much about you from Pat & Bob; I’ll bet they are really looking forward to seeing you again, even if you don’t have air! I have not heard of Layer Cake Shiraz. It sounds intriguing and I will definitely watch for it. Ribberfest sounds like a blast. We may have to check out Madison, Indiana! Thanks again!
June 19, 2007 at 6:52 pm
Please check out the Results of the 2007 Seattle Wine Awards. Would appreciate your comments. Thank you!
CC
June 19, 2007 at 7:59 pm
Christopher — Will do! Thank you for your suggestion!
June 24, 2007 at 4:33 am
Greetings from Sydney, Australia. Enjoying your blog, invariably with a glass of red. Keep it up. I’ve been drinking some French wine after reading “Families of the Vine” by Michael Sanders. I can recommend it as an accessible “here’s how they do it” on French wine in general and the wine of Cahors in particular. Look forward to ongoing contact. Thanks.
June 24, 2007 at 9:03 am
Hi Peter! Thank you so much for your post. We have enjoyed learning about Australia as we have tasted and enjoyed so many Australian wines. I am going to find the book you have recommended. I always enjoy a good, instructive wine book and there is so much to learn. Have you read “How to Taste” by Jancis Robinson? I have found her book to be a good instruction on how to begin to distinguish the tastes and smells in wines — and then put names to those sensations. (Tom bought me the book for Christmas.) Tell me, what are your favorite reds these days?
Thanks again for writing, Peter! Melody
June 28, 2007 at 5:54 am
Tom and Melody, thanks for the invitation to tell you about my favourite red wines. Invariably it’s the one I am drinking and that’s not such a daft answer because, like you I think, I love to try something different and be surprised, delighted and seldom hugely disappointed. I love the Cabs - right now drinking a South Australian Wolf Blass Yellow Label Cab Sav 2005, smell the oak, taste the blackcurrants! Last night it was an Italian Zonin Montepulciano d’Abruzzo Terre Palladiane - bit of a quaffer and fine with a pizza. Found your website after a search for a Beau-Rivage Bordeaux - I don’t mind the lower alcohol level (12%), many Australians are up to 14% perhaps too much sunshine. And can I mention Pinotage - another time perhaps.
July 5, 2007 at 6:14 am
Hi Melody and Tom! I just took a glance at your blog it seems as though you had a wonderful fourth of July. It was really weird not being in the states for fireworks this year! I might still be going to Paris…I’ll make sure to have loads of wine
Take care and hopefully I’ll see you before I move to SC!
July 7, 2007 at 4:28 pm
Hey guys! What a nice surprise! As a Native Michigander, now living in Lodi, California, I just wanted to say hello! I grew up in Detroit, (Yes! Detroit Public Schools rock!) and moved here 12 years ago. I don’t know how to describe Lodi, but think of it as one vineyard after another after another after another. There are some Great Wineries here: Jewel being one of them. I’m sure you can get Jewel Wines in Michigan, but if you want some great wines for less than $10.00, you should check out their Viognier or Un Oaked Chard! Amazing. Anyway, I’ll be back for the Wine Fest in Leelanau because I do love those Reislings! Take care! Thanks for the Blog!
July 7, 2007 at 5:21 pm
Hi Carlo! It’s great to get your post! Lodi sounds quite wonderful; we look forward to a time when we can travel together to northern California and explore the wineries. I looked on the map and see you really are in wine country! What made you move from Michigan to California?
We will keep our eyes open for Jewel wine. I will be watching for it.
Have a great time in Leelanau when you go. Isn’t that just one of the most beautiful spots in the world?
Thank you again for the cheerful note!
July 9, 2007 at 6:33 pm
Mike is the wine expert (self taught) in our family and he does a great job choosing just the right wine for whatever we’re having for our meal. He usually prefers Napa Valley vineyards, but we will be happy to try Michigan wines next time we visit! I don’t think there were any Michigan vineyards when I lived there! There certainly is more interest in wine everywhere now! I love it!
Keep up the good work! (Isn’t research fun?) It is great to see all four of your smiling faces!
Love, Cheryl
July 9, 2007 at 6:45 pm
Hi Cheryl! I am so thrilled to hear from you! It’s great to know there is a real wine expert in the family! Have you done any of the wine tours?
Next time you visit, we’ll have you over for a Michigan wine tasting, okay?
Thank you, Cheryl!
Love,
Melody
July 11, 2007 at 11:18 pm
Hi Melody!
Mike wants me to immediately clear up any misconceptions i may have given you. He is far from being an expert he says. Since I only know there are 2 distinctly different wines (red and white and sometimes pink) to me he is very good. It will be fun to visit you guys and try some wines with you.
We have visited some vineyards in San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara. It has been quite a while. We’ll have to do that again. It was really fun–especially the ones that offered specialties from the local chefs to go with the wine.
Take care.
Love,
Cheryl
July 23, 2007 at 12:36 am
Dear Tom and Melody
My name is Sorin Mihailovici and I live in Edmonton, Canada. I have been working in a major liquor store here for the last five years and I could say I am a big wine enthusiast! I just came across your blog and I am glad I found it. It seems like you put a lot of work into it.
While working in my liquor store, I also decided to go to school - I am taking TV productions at one of the most prestigious colleges in Western Canada, Grant MacEwan College.
Trying to mix my two passions I have created a couple of short movies - one is a minute and a half long, the other one 59 sec. The fist one is called “Remove red wine stains with white wine!” and the other one is “Open a bottle of wine without a corkscrew”. Although they are short I put several hours of work into them.
If you have a couple of free minutes please take a look at them. If you like them maybe you could post them on your blog up for a discussion, I would really like to know people’s opinion. (underneath every movie there is the embed code -copy and paste it on your blog so people could just click on it…
If you don’t like them I apologize for taking you the time to read my message.
Regardless of your answer - thank you and I will see you on this blog!
There are my movies:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/732526/remove_wine_stains_with_milk_or_white_wine/
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/724199/open_a_bottle_of_wine_without_corkscrew/
Thank you,
Sorin
July 23, 2007 at 6:45 am
Hello Sorin,
What a treat to get your nice note and to watch the video clips. They were great! I certainly learned something new - thank you! We will gladly post the links to your videos and I’m sure they will be appreciated by other wine lovers.
You live in a beautiful area of Canada; one that we hope to visit someday. Have you always lived in that area?
Stay in touch and let us know how your TV production education is going.
Thank you again for writing!
Melody
July 25, 2007 at 8:55 am
Sorin,
We just posted your How to Remove Wine Stains video (and we’ll post the Open a Bottle of Wine video tonight).
WordPress doesn’t support Metacafe in terms of allowing a Metacafe video player directly in the blog, but a simple link works fine.
Thanks for sending the videos!
Tom
August 10, 2007 at 9:19 pm
Hey Tom & Melody,
I just wanted to let you know that I am starting meet new people here in South Carolina. Quite a few of them enjoy wine and I have shared your website with them
They were super pumped to have a place to go and get tips on their wine selection process. Hope all is well!
Leena
August 10, 2007 at 9:30 pm
OPhh I forgot to tell you! My uncle back in England said when he was in Canada, he had ice wine. He said that he absolutely loved it! So I was doing some research and it seems pretty interesting. Here is a website with some different types but if you google it, you can find more information! Here is the site: http://www.northwest-wine.com/Ice-Wine.html
Enjoy!
August 11, 2007 at 8:48 am
Hi Leena! I am happy (but not at all surprised) that you are making friends and settling in at school. We sure do miss you here — in Chelsea and at EMU. Eastern won’t be the same! I’ll miss running into you at 7:50 a.m. trudging up to the 3rd floor of Pierce Hall. Thank you for sharing our blog with your friends. I hope they will share their comments! I am super excited for Monday night, as you can imagine!
August 13, 2007 at 12:18 am
Your son served us at North Point in Dexter Saturday. We were having a Covey Run Gewurtztraminer from Washington State and he mentioned your interest in wines and your blog; I see that we are not so distant in Pinckney, MI.
We have an abiding interest in wine, trending toward rather thuggish reds, but with a roving palate for anything interesting, especially if it complements a particular meal exquisitely.
Perhaps we’ll meet some day.
September 21, 2007 at 11:24 pm
Hi Melody!
I thought I would let you know that Ramona Meraz is here visiting this weekend, and we catching up on our lives and having some lovely wine! It’s carbernet sauvigon Bohemian Highway. It was delicious! I hope all is well.
Tell Tom I said hello, & Trigger a big hug for me!
Take care,
Leena
September 22, 2007 at 8:08 am
Leena,
How wonderful! You must be thrilled to be spending time with Ramona. I am counting down the days until Homecoming. We can’t wait to see you. You are missed!
(Trigger & Tom just got your hug.)
Melody
October 17, 2007 at 8:37 pm
Hi Tom & Melody:
Vicki Voisin (of Charlevoix) encouraged me to contact you. Don Voisin and my father are former business partners (my dad retired several years ago).
First, I’m excited to learn of your blog. I enjoy your reviews of Michigan wines, in particular. I plan to spend more time reading about your other favorite wines.
I live in Chelsea as well. Vicki said I had to invite you to my book signing at Cranesbill Books tomorrow, October 18. I co-authored a new book, From the Vine: Exploring Michigan Wineries. If you are able to stop by, I’d love to meet you both. Cranesbill is offering some Michigan wines for tasting during the signing. I think you’ll enjoy this aspect of the evening!
Cheers!
Sharon
October 18, 2007 at 6:22 am
Sharon — This is great news! We would love to meet you, too. We’ll do our best to attend the book signing.
I am eager to learn more about you and more about the book. I will certainly tell Vicki how much I appreciate her introducing us!
Cheers. . .
Melody
October 31, 2007 at 10:46 pm
Melody and Tom,
I absolutely loved seeing you, Tommy and Tony this weekend! Thank you for spending you Sunday afternoon with me! I really enjoyed my time in Chelsea. By chance can you send me the pictures you took? Hope to see you soon.
Take care,
Leena
November 1, 2007 at 6:13 am
Hi Leena, It was such a great weekend and we can’t wait for your next visit. Tom will be posting those pictures soon and I will also ask him to send them to you. Did you get any good pictures of you with your crown?
November 15, 2007 at 12:31 pm
I can’t wait to see what you brought back from Lafayette. You’ll need to do dome serious wine tasting this weekend.
November 15, 2007 at 6:47 pm
Haha, hmmmm, I wonder who the Form Guy could be?
I hope your celebratory evening with Karen is spectacular tonight! Congratulations on being honored.
December 2, 2007 at 2:29 pm
Hi Tom & Melody,
I was thinking of the two of you last night when I went to a wine and dine party with the other girls in the HESA program. The ladies had their apartment all decorated for the holiday and had plenty of red and white wines for us to try. It was a wonderful way to spend my saturday night!
I hope all is well
Take care,
Leena
December 2, 2007 at 3:27 pm
Leena, Sounds like a very nice party! Did you like any wine in particular? It is a damp and cold Michigan day here. I hope it is sunnier in South Carolina!
December 6, 2007 at 1:06 am
Hi,
I’m by no means a connoisseur, but I joined a wine club and I’m getting a few bottles by mail. When I really like a wine, I might search to see where the name pops up, and sure enough, you guys like it too. So congratulations on sharing my taste, lol.
Nice blog. I know it isn’t as easy as it looks.
Richard
December 6, 2007 at 7:35 am
Richard - We appreciate your note very much. Was there a particular wine that you recently tasted? We’d love to hear about it! It’s always fun to share tasting notes. Thank you for taking the time to comment. Tom & Melody
December 18, 2007 at 2:10 am
Hi Melody & Tom,
I just had some friends over after a lovely staff holiday dinner and we had a wonderful wine. It was Red Diamond Cabernet Sauvignon 2005 (Washington State). I really think you lot might like it! Hope all is well. Take care!
December 27, 2007 at 7:38 pm
I just had a delicious red wine: Terra Australis 2003 Cabernet Sauvignon / Shiraz. I have over 100 reds and I didnt remember where I purchased this wine or what I paid, so I did a google search and your blog was the first thing that popped up. I’ll spend some more time exploring some of the reds on your blog (though doubtful, I will try any from Michigan). Best regards,
Stuart Strange
(Alexandria, Va)
December 27, 2007 at 7:52 pm
Hello Stuart, Thank you for the note! It’s great to hear from you. What do you mean that you have over 100 reds. Do you have a cellar? Would love to hear more from you!
December 29, 2007 at 9:45 pm
Enjoyed looking at your blog very much. I’m in North Carolina and this state is ranked 10th now for wine production. A lot of it is in the Yadkin River Valley which is about 15 miles from my house. The federal government approved the Yadkin Valley American Viticulture Area (AVA), effective February 7, 2003. Here’s a link, come see us sometime:
http://www.yvwt.com/
December 30, 2007 at 10:30 am
We had no idea that North Carolina was a wine haven! How fascinating. We will be in North Carolina this coming summer for a family reunion so we are going to study this Yadkin Valley area and definitely take you up on your offer. Thanks for writing, crawdaddy!
January 5, 2008 at 12:59 am
Hi Tom and Melody!
Great wine blog site…hope to emulate it….
Unfortunately Singapore is too small a country and not of the right climate for wines. But that doesn’t stop us from enjoying the nectar of the gods and the essence of sunbeams i.e. wine ! Cheers and enjoy!
http://www.winedragon.blogspot.com
January 18, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Hey Tom and Melody,
I just got home from my first wine tasting in Columbia with my good friend Kate. We tried six different wines from Azura Pinot Gris to a lovely Matchbook Blockhouse Red Blend. We had so much fun that we are planning to go back! It was a fun and inexpensive ($5) adventure!
Leena & Kate
January 18, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Woo Hoo! Wow, that sounds spectacular, Leena & Kate! Which was your favorite? Tom & I (and Trigger) are taking a deep breath and enjoying a Friday night after a long week. We are having a Shiraz from South Africa (with leftover chili and fresh-baked bread). So good to hear from you, Leena! Love you!
January 19, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Hi Tom and Melody!
I’m Leena’s wine prodigy : ) I’m trying my hardest to get into wine and Leena has been a great teacher so far. She always speaks so highly of your blog so I just had to check it out myself. So far whites are my favorites, but I’m slowly opening up to reds. Question for you, what is the difference between Pinot Gris and Pinot Grigio? I’m lost with all the terms!
January 19, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Hello Kaitlin, Thank you for visiting our blog. It is great you are accompanying Leena on her wine expeditions. As you begin tasting wines, think more about “what is interesting about this wine?” rather than, “do I like the taste of this wine?” I think that will help you learn to appreciate and enjoy a wide variety of fascinating wines. To answer your question about Pinots, it is the same grape with two names – Pinot Gris is French for ‘Gray Pinot’ and Pinot Grigio is the Italian name. However, although it is the same grape, they are different wines. Pinot Gris is a robust, full-flavoured wine with a higher alcohol level than grigio (and consequently more body). Pinot Grigio is a minerally, dry wine that has a subtle nose with light pear and green apple fruit with a clean, lip-smacking finish.
See if you can taste any of these descriptions the next time you try one of those wine — and please let me know what you think! It was so nice to meet a friend of Leena’s!
February 15, 2008 at 1:19 am
I had no idea there are wineries in Michigan. I must live a sheltered life here in the Napa Valley Region (about 45 minutes) from my home. I enjoy South Australian Shiraz, Super Tuscans, and Big California Reds though I’m game for anything. I bet I’ll enjoy your Blog. Thanks!
February 15, 2008 at 7:28 am
Hello Rickro! We can’t help but feel a bit envious of your accessibility to the Napa Valley! Do you visit the area often? Your wine taste pretty much matches ours. . .we have also become very fond of Malbecs from Argentina.
It’s great to hear from you and we welcome your comments!
Tom & Melody
February 22, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Tom & Melody: This blog is great. It is so personable and real. Much better than any stuffy wine magazine review. I have been looking for a sight like this for awhile and am so glad you guys have wine palates that compliment what I like. I hope you don’t mind a random wine fan from Connecticut commenting! I have a great recomendation that I don’t see on your blog….Ravenswood Shiraz from Australia. They usually go for around $9-$11 a bottle. A great buy if you can get it and a staple I keep around.
February 22, 2008 at 8:16 pm
Hello Chris! This may be the nicest comment we have ever received. Thank you so much. It’s great to meet (cyberly) someone who has the same tastes in wine. I do hope you will comment frequently!
As for your Ravenswood Shiraz, I am certain we have had this wine, but we have not blogged about it. I will put it on our list to purchase again, on the basis of your recommendation.
February 23, 2008 at 10:49 am
Hi Tom and Melody,
I hope all is well up in the mitten state. Things are great down here in the south. I went to Charleston last weekend, if you have never been I definitely recommend it! It is a beautiful and historical place. Myself along with Kate and Steph have been going to wine tasting each Friday. Yesterday was my 7th week! So fun and exciting! I’ve learned that I definitely enjoy bold flavorful reds over most whites.
Miss you guys!
Leena
February 27, 2008 at 11:50 am
Hi Leena! It’s always great to hear from you. I am impressed that you are a regular wine taster these days - wow! Isn’t it interesting how the bold reds have become your favorite? When will you be coming back to Michigan for a visit? We are saving our corks for you!
April 8, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Good evening Tom & Melody,
I found another one I truly believe you will enjoy from 4 Seasons. It’s in the Feb08 member offer. The 2006 Ramshead Ridge Syrah (CA) is very reminesent of the Agustino Carmenere. A spicy bramble and dark plum notes that elevate to smoky tobacco and toasted oak aromas.
Another on my list of must haves.
April 8, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Oh boy! That sounds wonderful. Interestingly, I don’t think we received that particular wine — so, was it a wine you ordered from the brochure that accompanied the wine shipment? Or did you get it as part of your wine club shipment?
April 10, 2008 at 5:03 pm
It was a seperate mailing with several offers from 4SW.
April 23, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Good evening guys. Did you by chance get the latest mailing? Go to http://www.4seasonswine.com/apr25 or apr08. I’ve ordered the Big Reds mixed and Pinot Noir. I’m really looking forward to giving these a try.
April 23, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Hey Tim! How cool! Let us know what you think. I actually got a call from our new wine consultant who convinced me to purchase a case of South American wines (three of each) and a half a case of a French Bordeaux. They both arrived last night and we are eager to taste them. Stay tuned for our comments and please tell us about yours when you have had the chance to taste them!
May 16, 2008 at 1:37 pm
I came across your blog when FoodBuzz sent me your compliance report by mistake. I’m very impressed. I’ve added a link from our blog (http://winecompass.blogspot.com/) and the Weekly Compass section of Wine-Compass.com. Take care.
May 19, 2008 at 6:35 am
Hi Todd. This is very flattering; thank you so much. I am eager to see your blog and will do so right away. That is so strange about the compliance report. I wonder how that happened?
Nonetheless, it is so great that you checked out our blog and took the time to comment. Thanks very much.
May 23, 2008 at 2:27 am
Hey you two! I hope all is well. I just thought I would share that my girlfriends and I bought a bottle of wine from the pub/bistro downstairs, and it was amazing! It was the house red, a Shiraz great price for our budget. It went great with our pasta and veggie burgers. Sydney has been amazing so far. I can’t wait to travel out of the city and explore the rest of the country. Take care
June 13, 2008 at 8:22 pm
My collection of wines is growing faster than my consumption (as it should I guess), do you are any of your readers any a suggestion for a cooling/storage cabinet? I’m looking at getting one to hold up to 200/300 for a reasonable price. I found a Vinotemp @ Home Depot that appears to be reasonable, but I haven’t found any reviews on it and it isn’t Energy Star compliant.
June 19, 2008 at 6:30 pm
You might wish to do a bit of research on your statement that ” The Primitivo grape is known as Zinfandel here in the U.S. “. Primitivo and zin have a common ancestor but they aren’t the same grape.
Nice blog!
June 19, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Jeff, Thank you for this good information. We’ll check it out; thanks so much!